Originally Posted by Beer w/Straw Originally Posted by Howard Roark I am asking the members of these group why doesn’t the overwhelming majority of “moderate” muslims take over in the war against the “tiny” minority of terrorists that gives them a bad name.

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Originally Posted by doug68Us2 Originally Posted by MacGyver1968 Originally Posted by doug68Us2 Originally Posted by exchemist Originally Posted by doug68Us2 With all the references to perpetual motion, I should add that I never claimed a perpetual motion machine at all. Some of your arguments on why Islam is worse are things that other religions are also guilty of, making your arguments fallacious.Unless I’m misunderstanding you and you are saying that other religions are just as bad, at which point I’ll withdraw the argument. It’s not needed to describe what you have done, as we can see in the clear description above, and it will inevitably lead people to suspect you may be a perpetual motion crank! After all, at 1.6 billion strong, they shouldn’t have any problem cleaning their own house. Have you not been following the whole Uganda debacle?

It’s been everywhere. I can certainly buy that as a useful contribution to electrochemical cell design! As Douglas has noted elsewhere, it is not a new idea: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniell_cell#Gravity_cellWas the patent examiner made aware of this prior art?

Ye, this prior art is disclosed in both the application and the patent. For a person – a defenseless child – to materialize out of the dark was as fundamentally disturbing as a snowfall in midsummer…It was wrong. Please stay on topic, stop trying to divert the thread.

Originally Posted by Howard Roark Please stay on topic, the question is about the muslim majority taking action against the “minuscule” minority of muslim terrorists. A painful sort of hope. Wonder why…..

I have read a lot of books and short stories this year; this is one of the best so far. If you were to claim that you use gravity to overcome some of the the concentration effects that shorten the useful life of a cell, that would be fine. It is the story of an apocalyptic plague of vampires that all but wipes out humanity, and the few tired but tough and resourceful humans who survive in the wilderness. Hope was a thing that gave you pain, and that’s what the girl was.

Energy is not “stuff”, it is a property of a physical system. The Passage, I am told, is the first of a trilogy. Well that’s good then. One of my goals is to make longer lasting cells, but not perpetual cells. Like you are asking why don’t they volunteer to be boots on the ground against ISIS?

That’s what I’d like to see too. Cronin has me exactly where he wants me; I might as well send him the money for the next two…Please click here, or on the book cover above, to be taken to the complete review.. The arrangement of the cell is such that the accumulation of oxidation products at the anode that would otherwise build up as the cell operates is prevented from doing so by gravity. Yes I think the problem comes from thinking of it as gravity “entering” the system, as if it was some sort of stuff. Originally Posted by Howard Roark Originally Posted by SowZ37 Originally Posted by Howard Roark Please stay on topic, the question is about the muslim majority taking action against the “minuscule” minority of muslim terrorists.

I appreciate any help I can get. Yes that’ it exactly! Anyways, he’s been dead for quite a while, so where is the action of moderate muslim world? One of my goals is to make longer lasting cells, but not perpetual cells. I appreciate any help I can get.

What you are really saying is that the arrangement of the cell is such that the density differences that would otherwise build up near the electrodes as the cell operates, are prevented from doing so by gravity. You made a half-wrong statement, that Muslim countries punish gay people not Christian ones, You seem to have some grievances about being persecuted for being gay and Jewish. Part of the job of the patent agent was to help them clarify what it actually was. Please do not try to change the discussion.

You’re the one who’s deflecting. Gravity is overcoming a concentration effect.The pull of gravity is continuously pulling the accumulation (concentration) of anode cations away from the surface of the anode.If gravity did not continuously enter the system, then the accumulation of anode cations would not be removed. Since I am an amateur basement experimenter, it may be true that I am not able to describe my invention beyond that of an amateur’s understanding. Originally Posted by Beer w/Straw Originally Posted by Howard Roark I am asking the members of these group why doesn’t the overwhelming majority of “moderate” muslims take over in the war against the “tiny” minority of terrorists that gives them a bad name.

But if you claim you are harnessing gravity as an energy source to produce electricity, without any net fall in mass, you are claiming to get energy from nothing. It’s not needed to describe what you have done, as we can see in the clear description above, and it will inevitably lead people to suspect you may be a perpetual motion crank! Thanks I’ll take your advice to heart.

Thank you for that great insight. Originally Posted by Howard Roark I am asking the members of these group why doesn’t the overwhelming majority of “moderate” muslims take over in the war against the “tiny” minority of terrorists that gives them a bad name. Well that’s good then. You are trying to say that Islam is worse than other religions, or at least its followers are.

You are the one who inadvertently brought up other religions by implying Islam is worse than other religions. Related Discussions:Self-introductionchina was a very backward country in historythe evolution of man in a modern setting, is there a good treatment of these questions?Eye to Eye book, The Science of GodWhat are you listening to?The Person Below MeWhat are you listening to? (2.0)Achieving speed learning/readingpredecessorHello, new person with very basic knowledge I don’t think Doug has a very clear idea of what different forms of energy are or how they are interconverted. The cells do run down. My current thoughts are of an amateur group effort towards building a better understanding.

I can certainly buy that as a useful contribution to electrochemical cell design! But I think I’d steer clear of descriptions in terms of gravitational energy etc. Originally Posted by Howard Roark Originally Posted by Robittybob1 Originally Posted by Howard Roark I am asking the members of these group why doesn’t the overwhelming majority of “moderate” muslims take over in the war against the “tiny” minority of terrorists that gives them a bad name. I can certainly buy that as a useful contribution to electrochemical cell design!

As Douglas has noted elsewhere, it is not a new idea: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniell_cell#Gravity_cellWas the patent examiner made aware of this prior art? But now there was a girl. He may not be able to describe his invention accurately either. Everything about her flew straight into the face of the facts.

Please do not try to change the discussion. I can certainly buy that as a useful contribution to electrochemical cell design! But I think I’d steer clear of descriptions in terms of gravitational energy etc. Now the “gravity” part is cleared up… moved back to Chemistry. You made a half-wrong statement, that Muslim countries punish gay people not Christian ones, and now that you’ve been proven wrong you aren’t going to admit it?

You shouldn’t have said that Muslim countries and not Christian ones violate those human rights if you didn’t want examples to the contrary brought up.Besides. Thank you for that great insight. In this case I am tempted to say his agent has not done a great job, but then, since he has apparently got his patent past the examiner, he could rightfully say that was the object of the enterprise. Thanks for doing that, Dywyddyr. (….as the “Like” button doesn’t work….) It made no sense. Originally Posted by Dywyddyr Now the “gravity” part is cleared up… moved back to Chemistry.

If you were to claim that you use gravity to overcome some of the the concentration effects that shorten the useful life of a cell, that would be fine. Originally Posted by doug68Us2 Yes that’ it exactly!The arrangement of the cell is such that the accumulation of oxidation products at the anode that would otherwise build up as the cell operates is prevented from doing so by gravity. The Passage, by Justin Cronin, is the latest to be published in a growing body of literary mainstream SF/Horror stories. Thousands have swelled the ranks of ISIS how many have joined the opposition to ISIS? We don’t seem to get told that figure.

You’re right, gravity is overcoming some of the the concentration effects that shorten the useful life of a cell.Thanks for your interest So why do you say in your step 1 that gravitational potential energy is being continuously injected into the system? It sounded to me (as a COMPLETE novice) that system is being powered by gravity. When I trained for a while as a patent agent it was common to find that individual inventors did not really know what it was they had invented. You’re right, gravity is overcoming some of the the concentration effects that shorten the useful life of a cell.Thanks for your interest So why do you say in your step 1 that gravitational potential energy is being continuously injected into the system?

It sounded to me (as a COMPLETE novice) that system is being powered by gravity. Originally Posted by Strange Originally Posted by exchemist Well that’s good then. Have you not been following the whole Uganda debacle? It’s been everywhere.

Originally Posted by SowZ37 Originally Posted by Howard Roark Originally Posted by SowZ37 Originally Posted by Howard Roark Please stay on topic, the question is about the muslim majority taking action against the “minuscule” minority of muslim terrorists. Yes I think the problem comes from thinking of it as gravity “entering” the system, as if it was some sort of stuff. Originally Posted by doug68Us2 Originally Posted by exchemist Originally Posted by doug68Us2 Originally Posted by MacGyver1968 Originally Posted by doug68Us2 Originally Posted by exchemist Originally Posted by doug68Us2 With all the references to perpetual motion, I should add that I never claimed a perpetual motion machine at all. In writing it Cronin drew heavily from another master of the genre, Stephen King, especially from his good-versus-evil morality tale, The Stand.

After all, at 1.6 billion strong, they shouldn’t have any problem cleaning their own house. Didn’t Saddam suppress terrorism with an Iron Fist?I’m curios Please do not try to change the discussion. What you are really saying is that the arrangement of the cell is such that the density differences that would otherwise build up near the electrodes as the cell operates, are prevented from doing so by gravity.

Originally Posted by exchemist Well that’s good then. Gravity is overcoming a concentration effect.The pull of gravity is continuously pulling the accumulation (concentration) of anode cations away from the surface of the anode.If gravity did not continuously enter the system, then the accumulation of anode cations would not be removed. After all, at 1.6 billion strong, they shouldn’t have any problem cleaning their own house.

Originally Posted by exchemist Originally Posted by doug68Us2 Yes that’ it exactly!The arrangement of the cell is such that the accumulation of oxidation products at the anode that would otherwise build up as the cell operates is prevented from doing so by gravity. Didn’t Saddam suppress terrorism with an Iron Fist?I’m curios Not really, he was very good at exporting terrorism. The cells do run down. Yes that’ it exactly! The arrangement of the cell is such that the accumulation of oxidation products at the anode that would otherwise build up as the cell operates is prevented from doing so by gravity.

Thank you for that great insight. Please stay on topic, stop trying to divert the thread. I appreciate any help I can get. But if you claim you are harnessing gravity as an energy source to produce electricity, without any net fall in mass, you are claiming to get energy from nothing.